#3 Line of Attack
the #3 line of attack is something that is very specific to Hawkins Cheung’s method, i have never seen it in any other wing chun method. It’s a very crafty line, and is great when combined with the “jamming” concept and in combination with the #2 line of attack.
But remember that “jamming” can only work if you use your “body structure” and maintaining your strong “root” as you enter with good footwork. That is the key to getting anything and everything that i have to teach, and getting your Chinese Boxing to work against a resisting opponent.
Remember that the “body controls the hand” and not the other way around.
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Very good video! I like that you are explaining how the previous concepts (such as #1, #2 lines, shovel method) integrate and reinforce each of these newer concepts.
I am wondering….how important is it to have the elbow down in a #3 line attack? I think Faht Sau?? travels a similiar path but with the elbow up…or…unless the elbow isn’t suppose be up in Faht Sau..??
Great job with these videos Jin!!!
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Jin Reply:
February 8th, 2010 at 3:12 pm
it’s important to see all the concepts working together, that’s why it’s so important to always go back to the “concepts” videos. also, the elbow must always be kept down, remember that you are attacking with your body structure through your elbow (heavy elbow concept) and not into your hand or fist.
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sick
this was a mad multi lesson vid!
thanks jin!
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Jin Reply:
February 8th, 2010 at 3:12 pm
glad you enjoyed it!
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The lessons are getting longer! GREAT!!
A full video DVD can’t be too far off.
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Jin Reply:
February 8th, 2010 at 3:14 pm
lol..yea, this video was long! editing takes me an extra couple hours, and i’m so tired usually, so i figured i would just let it go as is. glad you enjoyed it!
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Good video
Thanks Jin
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Jin Reply:
February 8th, 2010 at 3:14 pm
no problemo, peace!
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Hi Jin,
Fascinating insight as always, you are really stepping up the levels now!
You mention the application of the 3rd line is for fighting. In chi sao, i have applied the 2nd line theory but am wondering if it is possible to apply the 3rd line theory???? I am thinking that in chi sao you would have to break contact to take yor arm across your chest to strike?
Thanks and keep up the good work
Take Care
Saj
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Jin Reply:
February 8th, 2010 at 3:16 pm
hey Saj, yes, using the 3rd line is very important and you most likely use it often during chi sau, but don’t realize it, try taking a look at your movements during chi sau and see if you can recognize all 3 lines. we’ll also get more into using the lines in chi sau in the future.
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Jin,
Long ago, I studied Yang Tai Chi Chuan and we used to do these tests where the Sifu would slowly place pressure to different parts of our body and we had to use our structure to direct that pressure into the ground. With practice we were able to successfully maintain our structure even when standing on one leg. What we discovered is that the secret (if there is one) was in the tilting of the pelvis. If that pelvic tilt could be maintained, it didn’t matter how your weight was distributed. But, if the person testing your structure were able to remove that tilt, you lost everything. On a different note…the stepping that you were explaining is exactly the way I was taught when learning the Tong Long Ma of Southern Praying Mantis, but the why and the details of why we stepped like that were never understood by me. Thank you for the clarification.
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Jin Reply:
February 8th, 2010 at 3:19 pm
thanks David, all internal martial arts rely on the same concepts and principles. they are not specific to just wing chun, and i’m glad to see that you recognize that. keep it up!
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Hi Jin, I was wondering if it is possible to purchase a collection of all your videos, you are truly the Wing Chun genius of our time. Cheers from Australia.
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elijah Reply:
January 31st, 2010 at 10:59 pm
rob where in australia?
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thanks
Great video!!!
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Jin Reply:
February 8th, 2010 at 3:19 pm
no problemo!
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Jin,
I was wondering…what is the difference between the Fuk Sao and an attack along the 3rd line?
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Jin Reply:
February 8th, 2010 at 3:21 pm
fuk sao should be maintained at the 1st line, the centerline (this is VERY important) an example of 3rd line, would be if you used pak sau across to your opposite shoulder line, and then from there continued with a punch.
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peposo7 Reply:
February 13th, 2010 at 1:32 am
In that case, since your other hand is going over the hand “jammed” by the fuk sao, it will go through the 3rd line instead of a true centerline. So by just trying to go “over his hand” we might be using the 3rd line even if we thought it was more or less the centerline…really??
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I studies under a student of Ip Ching and what i am finding interesting is the amount of crossover. not just in small things but in the drill used to practice the #2 line and in the description and application of the #3 line.
Really enjoying this website and glad i stumbled into it. Great resourse with well thought out, good Wing Chun logic, cheers
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Jin Reply:
March 6th, 2010 at 5:51 pm
nice, glad to see other WC practitioners who practice alike!
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Sifu Jin, Is the ULTIMATE target the opponents centerline and not the opposite shoulder? In other words if the opponent’s arms are blocking his centerline and you aim your punch towards the opposite shoulder, his arms are cleared from his centerline but deflect your punch into his centerline? Thanks
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